00:00 Episode Preview

00:15 Opening

00:51 Introduction

02:04 Interview Begins with Alexandra Hanly

03:14 Galactic Star Tarot: Embracing Past Selves

08:23 Starseeds: Galactic Souls’ Journey

12:15 Discovering Purpose Through Karma

13:52 Awareness and Soul Evolution

18:20 Self-Realization Through Pain

21:35 Understanding Human Instincts and Awareness

24:30 Manifestation and Forgiveness Exploration

27:23 AD – Join our Tarot for Alchemy Course https://learntarot.mysticmondays.com/

32:01 Journey from Dogma to Personal Truth

35:48 Quest for Unity and Experience

37:08 Soul Contracts and Spiritual Clusters

43:10 Challenging Materialistic Western Values

46:21 The Only Way Out Is In

48:06 Vedic vs. Western Astrology Insight

52:35 Rest and Integrate Lessons

55:32 Free Membership Offer with Deck Purchase

56:40 End of Episode – Make Sure to Leave a Podcast Review!

57:40 End Card

Welcome to the GRACED Podcast! A space for everyday magic for your everyday life. We do this through rituals, aligning yourself to your soul’s purpose, and creating Alchemy to heal our mind, body, and spirits so that you can bring in more love and joy, manifest your desires, and believe in your dreams.

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Now let’s dive into today’s episode.

✨ Introduction

Grace: Welcome to the GRACED Podcast, A space where we talk about everyday magic for your everyday life. Today’s guest is Alex Hanly, international best selling author, Hay House decorator, cosmic priestess, and creator of the Awakened Bliss Codes. She is also the co author behind the Galactic Star Tarot, which she does do a collective reading at the end, so make sure to stay tuned. Which she does do a collective reading at the end of this episode. Together, we explore themes of the judgment tarot card, a card that speaks about rebirth, higher calling, soul awakening. We talk about how to tune in to your inner truth, answer the call of your purpose, and what it really means to rise from your past and step into a new vibration.

And we are doing a giveaway of Alex’s deck, the Galactic Star Tarot on Instagram, YouTube, and all the socials. More details on how to enter this giveaway on the @grace.duong and @mysticmondays Instagrams. Now let’s dive into this episode.

✨ Interview Begins with Alexandra Hanly

Grace: Hi, Alex. Welcome to the GRACED Podcast.

Alex: Hi, Grace. Thank you so much for having me today.

Grace: Yeah. Definitely. So I’m so excited because I have your Galactic Star tarot deck here, and I know that you are a galactic being, so I’m so excited to dive into that with you. And we’re also here to talk about themes of the judgment card, which has a lot to do with reflection, a higher calling and absolution and evaluation. So I’d love to hear what your take is on the judgment card and how that relates to a higher calling.

Alex: Yeah. I think that the judgment card is one of the more complex tarot cards. Definitely, all the major arcana are more complex anyway, but the judgment card tends to trip up a lot of new readers, also I’ve noticed. And there’s been a lot of confusion. You’ve probably noticed this too with people who are new to tarot between justice and judgment. People tend to get them mixed up. So judgment to me has always felt like almost like a shadow work card. It’s like all these versions of ourselves that we’re come we’ve come to a point in our journey where we say, okay.

✨ Galactic Star Tarot: Embracing Past Selves

Alex: I can reconcile with all these other versions of myself. Right? So in the traditional and let me pull up my card for it too, me and Pam’s card in the Galactic Star Tarot that Pamela Chen and I created together. We have a galactic take on all of the traditional Rider Waite Smith. So this is what our card looks like. We have a celestial being on top of this tree that is meant to really resemble, like, a cosmic family tree. And these beings that are on the ground and rising up around the ground, now in the traditional symbology, there are people rising up out of coffins. And it’s essentially bringing back to our awareness and presence, at least this is how I interpret, that there’s all these other versions we’ve been. Right? My grandmother said to me once, like, we live so many lives in one life.

Alex: And I think that’s the judgment card. It’s like all these other versions of ourselves that brought us to our next version, our next level self. And so when we move into the judgment card, I see this as real mastery of the self saying, maybe there were some versions, maybe I don’t love that much right now. How do I recall this person, this energy with these strengths and these flaws, because it’s always going to have both, and reconcile them into who I am now? And I think a big part of this card is forgiveness of the self, is reconciliation with the self and choosing where we want to go next in light of all of the places we’ve been.

Grace: Yeah. Wow. I love that. And it just reminds me of how different public figures like Madonna or something has gone through so many reinventions in her own life. And do you feel like that is the purpose of one’s life to constantly find oneself in one’s truth, whether that is reinventing oneself over and over again?

Alex: I think so. And I think even on soul level, even more so. I do believe in reincarnation. I believe that we’re in cycles of what’s called samsara, which in the ancient texts, these come from India initially, that Sanskrit samsara is a reincarnation cycle. So for me, this feels very truthful to how I feel around incarnation. This is also the judgment card, but it can be applied as well into the individual life that we’re living. So I do see it as, yeah, we have all of these incarnations that we also reconcile to attain Moksha. Right? Moksha is the liberation of incarnation.

Alex: It’s what we call nowadays, like, ascension energies. And so it’s all these past lives of ours, which we definitely dive into in the galactic starts, all of our galactic lives we lived before, and bringing forward the gifts, bringing forward the karmic lessons. Right? Because that’s why we keep reincarnating is because of of karmas. And when we bring that macro scale into the microscopic lens of this particular incarnation cycle, I do think that it’s meant to be holistic. That’s what this trumpet is calling on is to bring awareness to all the parts of ourselves. Again, coming back to the shadow work kind of energy in here is, okay, maybe I’m a procrastinator. Maybe I’ve had these types of experiences. Maybe I have a short fuse with my patients sometimes, and maybe I’m a very generous person.

Alex: You know, all these different parts of us that we can claim without judgment and just say these are all the messy pieces of my human condition, or these are all the messy pieces of my soul that’s been in all these incarnational expressions and being able to holistically capture them into the essence of who we are either as a human or on soul level.

Grace: Yeah. Something I love about your teachings and what you bring to Earth are the galactic star teachings. Right? And so for anyone that doesn’t know what is the galactic star system or the many galactic star systems and the many different types, and how do we know if we belong to one, and and what is the purpose of if you do identify with being a star being of being reincarnated on Earth?

Alex: Yeah. That’s such a good question. I think this is such a personal journey for everybody. I know that, you know, there’s more awareness these days, and that’s growing and growing and growing. Like, Pam, my business partner always says, like, now you can get crystals at Sephora. Like, you know, everything that used to kind of be under the radar or the hidden and the, like, the occult is now really in our faces. It’s become very masked. One of the major movements is around the galactic energies and the cosmic energies and remembering that we are galactic citizens.

Alex: So the energy behind this deck is really to connect in with other beings that may not have their incarnations from Earth. Right? So there’s a lot of evidence of this actually, significant evidence that archaeologists have found over cultures across all time that there have been beings that have visited this planet for a long time with really pretty significant accounts of what they look like, where they come from with astronomical accuracy. It’s it’s really stunning. And so we brought that into a more etheric space with this deck to help us tune into, on a conscious level, these beings. Right? Because we are of this planet, but we’re also of this galaxy. So this work is specifically focused on the Milky Way galaxy. So we are cosmic citizens. That’s a much larger incarnation cycle to look at.

✨ Starseeds: Galactic Souls’ Journey

Alex: But just zooming out from our own Earth life, we have the galactic contract that we’re held in. So there are tons and tons of star systems inside of here, and a lot of us have entered into this galaxy in other areas other than Earth. And these are what we call starseeds. So it’s like if you take a dandelion, you know, when it starts to turn, like, white and it’s ready to germinate. It’s like that, and you blow on the dandelion and the seed goes elsewhere. That’s essentially what a starseed is, is we may have incarnated our first time in the galaxy in Sirius or Aldebaran or somewhere else, and we’re like, okay. I learned my lessons here, finished up that Samsara cycle on this planet, in this star system. Let me finish up, you know, let me work on this larger incarnation cycle of the galaxy in another system now.

Alex: And so for some of us, our first incarnation point is on Earth. That’s what we call Earthers because some people ask, well, you know, what’s the difference between somebody who’s a starseed and someone who started on Earth? No difference in power. No difference in wisdom and greatness. It’s just kind of where we first chose to seed in to this galaxy, but we’ve probably been in tons of other galaxies before, tons of other universes. So that’s the energy behind this deck is to tune into a greater scope of awareness on our journey.

Grace: Yeah. And I’ve had this awareness that there are multiple versions of ourselves simultaneously playing out in, like, multiverses. And I feel like, you know, there’s a version of me out there or wherever. Right? Or, like, an elven version of me or this current version of me, you know, on this podcast with you. And do you feel like these are whole versions of ourselves living a timeline, or are they, like, fractals of self, or how can we encompass this wholeness of purpose? Because I feel like the judgment card is also about finding one’s purpose and higher calling. And when I think about because I do remember some past lives of my own and you mentioned forgiveness and there are some, like, traumatic past lives that have come up. There are some things that highlight your gifts and your strengths. And when we think about why we come back and why we reincarnate over and over again, whether it’s on Earth or in different star systems, or maybe we’re living many lives at the same time, what is that turning point for our soul to then connect to as the core point or purpose?

Alex: Oh, wow. What a good and complex question. I can only answer that from my own experience. I think this is such interestingly a very individual experience even though it’s a collective journey. But for me, I think it really has to do in our current little corner of consciousness that the conditions that we incarnate in. So for example, Earth, the conditions of this matrix is that we have basically elective amnesia. Right? Like, we come in basically forgetting that we are these immortal, eternal creator God beings. Right? And we’re just playing these roles, at least that’s in my belief.

Alex: And I think that this is really where we can tune into purpose. Because for me, I think that it can be expressed in so many different ways in an incarnation, and I think that there’s a greater purpose in, like, again, the macro scale of it and the micro scale. So in the macro kind of lens of this, I see it as unification. At the end of the day, every soul, every higher self, every parcel of the oneness is seeking unification. And so when we bring that down, we abstract that even further into the individual incarnation where your grace, I’m Alex, our listeners are our listeners, right, that each person is individuated. We came into the conditions of this planet that there’s a veil of amnesia that I believe was intentional so that we need to remember what it is to love deeply. We need to remember that abundance is our birthright and scarcity is an illusion of separation. Right? And so this is the judgment card too.

✨ Discovering Purpose Through Karma

Alex: When we can overcome in the moment to moment, which is, I think, harder than on soul level, remember that we are unified, that we are abundance, that we are creator, and we’re forever. That is so much this energy. And so when we come into an incarnation, there’s a karma we’re working on. That karma, the big karmas, there’s little karmas, all sorts, they flavor our incarnation, that’s what guides us to knowing our dharma, our purpose. Why did I live in this place? Why do I look the way I do? Why do I speak this language? What are the causes and conditions that I created under this veil of amnesia to experience certain things in this life, to bring me to more soul wholeness, right, through that journey of samsara? And I think that when we’re in the individual, we need to start adding those pieces together just like in a judgment card of, okay, there was this version of me. I learned that lesson. Where’s the pattern? Where are we seeing the patterns? And that will shed light on our dharmic purpose, what we were here to do. So that on the larger soul level, we can close that up too.

Grace: Yeah. Definitely. And I don’t have my Mystic Mondays tarot card, but it does remind me of certain checkpoints. And when you get to a checkpoint in your life, looking in the mirror as reflection and as evaluation for what was working and what’s not working, what you wanna bring into the future. But often, we bring so much of our past into the present that affects our future. So for anyone that may struggle with tuning into their higher calling or the point of transition to then create that change, what do you think is blocking them from doing that?

✨ Awareness and Soul Evolution

Alex: Well, I think there’s so many different conditions. One thing for sure would be awareness. Right? So there is that level of the mind of the observer, which we all still maintain of being the witness, which is really that higher cognitive state that we’re still aware of who we are right now as these humans, but we’re also simultaneously aware of our our greater state of being as well. Right? And so I think awareness of where we’ve been, just like all these versions of ourselves that are waking up and seeing, well, why on soul level would I choose to go through that? What is the discovery for me there? How does that contribute to reunification with the collective? And how does that guide me towards soul evolution, which is the part that we need to do? Right? It’s called the great work of attaining that higher level of consciousness, remembering that we’re all part of the interbeing. So I think looking at all these different parts of ourselves and asking, why did this happen? What does this mean to me? What am I making this mean? What did I learn from that? Is what we can reconcile into a greater, more holistic picture of where we’ve been and where we’re going.

Grace: Yeah. And I think that brings me to think about contrast and the gift of contrast because so many of us might think, oh, this really sucks. Like, why is this happening to me? And we might go into, like, victim mode of why this is happening. But I do feel like there’s kind of like the spectrum of emotions where we think of, like, the low vibrating emotions like anger or whatnot that then gives us information to make decisions. And I think anger as an emotion particularly is one that does catalyze change. So I think there’s a lot of judgment in how we feel about things and how we might approach things. And because you mentioned karma, if we’re carrying karma, let’s say, from maybe this life or past lives or whatever, and we’re noticing certain patterns happening over and over again, is there a way to absolve those patterns that we are carrying? And is that a sole contract for us to then deal with whether in this lifetime or in a future lifetime?

Alex: Yeah. Eventually, we’re gonna have to deal with that one way or another, and we get to choose if we’re gonna take on that karmic load now or later. But I think that, you know, again, it goes back to that awareness piece, being aware that there’s all these versions of ourselves, all of these lessons we’ve learned, and awareness of the choices that we’ve already made that led us to those places. How can we make more empowered, more insightful, more soul led choices? And I think that is the work that essentially clears the karma, is awareness that, hey, there’s an energy there. I created that. And without judgment, because I think you were, like, really spot on with that because shame can bring us into a totally different spiral. But without judgment, but with a heart of compassion, you know, see those pieces of ourselves and see that as the holistic being that we are. A human isn’t meant to be out in the eleventh dimension, light be we’re meant to be embodied here in this messiness.

Alex: We’re meant to be imperfect and flawed. That’s a big part of it is accepting those pieces of ourselves.

Grace: Yeah. And I’d love to zoom out a bit and let everyone know about your background and what were your moments of contrast, or what were your moments of awakening or higher calling?

Alex: Yeah. I mean, for me, I was raised in a religious household that was also spiritual. So, like, I was going to church every Sunday, but then, like, my mom was teaching me tarot, my mom was doing Reiki, and tarot has been passed down in my family for generations. So there was always that part of it too. Like the judgment card, you know, I had trouble reconciling that. Now I have reconciled it, but that was part of, like, my journey, for instance. So big moments of contrast, big moments of awakening for me was after college, I moved to New York. I was a model in New York for a number of years, and it was probably the darkest point in my life, really dark night of the soul, just constantly out partying.

Alex: I ended up in drug addictions. You know, I was in a really heavy place. And my series of divine intervention, I ended up in California at a yoga festival. And that’s really what catalyzed the first big transformation for me. So I had this moment of pure gnosis, samadhi, like, very high level of awakening that changed the entire course of my life. And I remember in that moment too before I really transcended the idea of there being an Alex, because, actually, there wasn’t. It’s like this card, Grace. Like, every version of myself came in.

✨ Self-Realization Through Pain

Alex: I saw all of these expressions of me, all the things I like and don’t like, like, all of these idiosyncrasies of what make me who I am, and lots of pain. Like, all the things I was mad about and angry about and holding and victimizing myself and blaming others for, that was the first portal that brought me through into oh my gosh. I remember I’m creator. Right? But I had to pass through that portal of, like, this really immense pain that led me to an entire blanket of just forgiveness. And, you know, the dissolution of that illusion that I’m a victim of anything. Right? That actually I’ve created all of this to align with my karmas and find my purpose. Right? So it was all of that, like, moment of reconciliation of, hey. I’ve done some shit things.

Alex: I’m also this person, and there are all these other people, and we’re just playing, and I love you all, and I forgive you all, and I forgive me. And it was like that moment that brought me into that very high level of awakening that now that’s really led me to my purpose in life, which is helping others on their spiritual journey and helping them through awakenings.

Grace: Yeah. I think that’s so powerful to come to this point where you’re looking at all these different versions of yourself. And, also, I think there’s power in even just saying, like, all of the decisions I made have created what this current situation is, and that’s also, like, placing the power back in your hands versus, like, oh, this is happening to me. Like, why is this, you know, going this way and such and such and realizing that you’re always creating the present moment. I believe do you know what abracadabra stands for?

Alex: No. I don’t. I feel like that’s something I learned somewhere and put in, like, a back shoe box in my brain.

Grace: Yeah. Well, it came up for me yesterday, and I believe it translates to I create as I speak. I think that is really powerful and that, like, you’re always creating your present moment, whether that’s, like, in your thoughts as, like, a vibration. And I know you mentioned, like, scarcity and the reality of thinking in abundance. And so I know a lot of people on this planet Earth and elsewhere probably struggle with the two. So what would you say to anyone who is in a scarcity mindset to then raise their vibration to embrace abundance?

Alex: Oh my gosh. I have so many chills. That’s such a good question because I feel like as humans, like, we’re kind of always passing through this portal and then passing through it again. Like, we’re always being brought back into remembering that we are one. When we feel that we’re separate from something outside of us, that’s what separation consciousness is, and that’s what leads to scarcity mindset. So if we are thinking that there’s money outside of us or there’s opportunities outside of us or anything outside of us that isn’t part of us is where we are solidifying the belief that there’s separation. And if there’s separation, then there’s contrast that is hierarchical. Right? That there’s good, there’s bad.

Alex: There’s something I want, there’s something I don’t want. And I would say the first piece to healing the separation consciousness is just being aware because it’s the human condition. We’re always gonna fall back into it. It’s that practice of bringing ourselves back out of it continually that we become somebody who’s living in the unity consciousness. So I think just recognizing, hey. I’m feeling nervous about these bills. Hey. I’m feeling like I might miss that opportunity.

✨ Understanding Human Instincts and Awareness

Alex: I’m gonna be left out. Whatever it is that feels icky, that there’s something outside of you that you can’t have, either you’re grasping for it or you’re pushing it away, is to have compassion for ourselves that that’s just the human brain. Right? Because we are also contending with biology that’s been programmed into this, like, physical vessel. So we have to, like, deal with that on top of the whole rest of the journey. So being aware of our physiological and our biological and evolutionary processes, I think, really helps us to be like, oh, that’s just the human. Part of me that’s convincing me I’m separate, so I’m safe. Right? But we’re in a much higher consciousness state on this planet now. A lot of us, not everyone, but a lot of people who’d be listening to your podcast are in that state that we can say, hey.

Alex: I’m I’m aware that my mind right now is telling me I don’t have that thing. I love you, mind. It’s okay. And then I would say the next thing is bring yourself back into your breath, back into your body because that kind of resets us to remember that, hey. I’m with the breath. I’m with the breath. It’s universal. And that’s just an easy way to transition back into that state that I’m here right now.

Alex: I’m in this space. I’m in this time. And that type of presence helps us to relax and to remembering that this is all one energy. We’re all the quantum field. We’re part of everything, and that’s where abundance is because there’s nothing separate from us.

Grace: Yeah. I love that. And I feel like a lot of this conversation is also about taking responsibility for oneself and one’s actions and placing the power back into our hands of creating our current reality. But sometimes our current reality isn’t always reflecting or validating what we wanna put out into the world. So if we’re like, oh, I really wanna manifest this thing, but it just feels so out of reach for who I currently am. How does one bridge the gap between who they are now to who they want to become? Oh, wow. That’s such

Alex: a good question again. And I’m gonna go back to awareness, like recognizing, hey, maybe I’ve been that other version of myself for quite a while. I’m making a choice now to shift that. And, again, with compassion recognizing here’s where I am right now. Now you talked about the multiverse earlier. So I would I would coach my students and also use the technique of tuning into that, that there is limitless potential of what could happen in anybody’s trajectory. Right? And we get to choose the timeline we want to move through, and we can shift that at any time. So for me, it would be, okay.

Alex: I wanna be a millionaire. So I would start feeling into how I feel as a human being, as a millionaire tune into that reality somewhere because it exists. Right? And what types of choices would this version of myself make? How does she shop? How does she dress? And make it arrive in this moment here, shift that timeline by creating those circumstances there that would already exist in that reality.

✨ Manifestation and Forgiveness Exploration

Grace: Yeah. And I feel like a lot of what manifestation is about and I’m bringing up manifestation in this episode because I feel like when we come across judgment, like, let’s say, at, like, the very last ends of our life and we wanna look back and we wanna think about all the great things we’ve done, a lot of it has to do with the things that we wanna manifest into our lives. And I think a lot about manifesting is about clearing space. And I know something that you had mentioned was this blanket of forgiveness, and I think so many people hold on to things as a form of power in itself just because they’re able to hold on to it. So for you, you know, what was the process of forgiveness like? Was it like in that instant when you went into that state, you’re like, okay. I’m letting go of everything. I’m releasing. Or was it like a process of many months or many years? Like, what does forgiveness look like or had looked like for you?

Alex: I think for me, I tried to guide it with forcing beliefs into my thoughts. Like, oh, I’m a forgiving person. Like, I can forgive them, but I wasn’t embodying that. I was still carrying the resentment, the victimhood. I think what you said is really powerful that it’s almost kind of like this backwards, like, way that we empower ourselves by declaring our disempowerment. And I think for me, that’s where I was at for a really long time, and it was really just through the breath and the spiritual practices that I let those energies carry me into forgiveness because when it was guided by me, I wasn’t so successful in it. But when I reached this energy that the energies worked on me, that’s when I was able to feel that feeling of, oh my gosh. We’re literally one.

Alex: Like, we are one, and we’re playing out these roles. I probably, you know, asked all those people to be in contract with me that I was resenting for so long when really the message is, hey. Thanks for playing that role because it was tough and he taught me something that helped me learn about myself and who I am and what I’m here to do. I wouldn’t have landed on my purpose had I not perhaps gone through some of those trials, which thank you souls for playing those really awful roles as the bad guy in my story. Right? And so I think that’s a lot of the forgiveness is we’re all here with amnesia. We don’t fully know who we are on soul level until we’re doing this work. For me, it’s forgiveness of that illusion. Anybody who I felt hurt by, they were under a veil of illusion, as was I.

Alex: Right? And we’re continually pulling that veil back. Right? And so that’s what it was for me was, hey, This is an imperfect human, and that’s that’s the name of the game. That’s what we wanted to do here so we can remember what it is to love in the hardest times because it’s that heart of love that’s that glue of unity that no matter what happens, we can still choose love. We can choose to say, hey. And maybe not this human version of you. I don’t really like them that much. But on a higher level, we’re still we’re one energy.

✨ Journey from Dogma to Personal Truth

Grace: I feel like everything you’re mentioning is just, like, really simple. It’s like coming back to the breath, becoming aware of oneself, you know, noticing your body signals or, you know, like, maybe you’re getting, like, downloads. And I really love that you mentioned that your breath and those energies carried you there because sometimes we do need divine intervention to help us get to our next chapter because I feel like so much of us try to exert willpower, and it just, like, never works. Like, I’m like, oh, I really want this thing to happen. I’m just, like, you know, going at it. There’s something about the human capacity to let go and let God. Like, let them carry you into whatever is meant for you, and some things aren’t meant for you, and that’s okay.

Alex: Yeah. I totally agree with that. And that divine intervention, I think, is us. Like, you know, guiding us to where we’re meant to go in life because all those, like, those trials and tribulations we’ve all been through are by design. And it’s for for people, and I’m guilty of this too, where you’re like, why does this keep happening to me? Why is it the same thing over and over? It’s like, okay. If you’re noticing any repeating pattern in your life, especially one that you don’t like, that’s a karma. That is like screaming for your attention. And the longer that we ignore it, the louder those screams are gonna be, and that’s when we have those really big tower moments.

Alex: So if we can, like, pay attention to those reoccurring patterns earlier is usually when we can find more relief because we’re releasing it sooner.

Grace: Yeah. And that brings me back to, you know, why we might hold on to resentment or, you know, heavier emotions and going back to the truth of love. Because I feel like when you really tune into the energy of love, it just feels good versus if you tune into the energy of, let’s say, resentment, it doesn’t feel good. And I think that goes back to belief systems, whether that’s like the religion you grew up with or maybe you went to grade school, like your second grade teacher, like, really affected you then or whatever. And I feel like that comes back to, like, belief systems into, you know, judgment of, like, how we evaluate our lives and the direction of our lives. And, you know, what do you think about belief systems that hold maybe, like, human ambitions of religion or the power structures of religion versus the universal belief systems of love and the feelings that just feel good?

Alex: Yeah. I mean, having been brought up in a house that there was Christianity, and now I am not, you know, I don’t associate myself as a Christian any longer, and I think that speaks volumes there. I study Gnosticism, right, which is like a take on it, and I study ancient Aramaic and really tried to find the purified teachings from Yeshua and all those great ascended masters back then. But when that is adulterated into dogma is when there are people who are trying to volley for power, who are creating false structures and systems to essentially convince people to buy into, right? So it’s we think that we are finding freedom from buying into the exact structures that imprison our minds and our thoughts. And I think you’re absolutely right, it’s belief. And if we’re lucky enough, we’re able to be in a circumstance like you and I and probably all your listeners where we get to make our own choices in life. That’s not everywhere in the world, but I think certainly people who are listening to this have choice, they have the ability and the freedom to make choices. And so, you know, I know I’m not the only person I know who was brought up in a very structured dogmatic religion and found my own truth by breaking away from that.

Alex: And I think, again, this goes back to we make our own choices. We choose where to keep buying into ignorance and where we know that there could be more information and more illumination brought in. And sometimes we just blindly buy into what we’re told, and I think that’s a problem, whether it’s religion, it’s politics, or any other type of, dogmatic principles or buying into some structure that’s been created by somebody else, that’s a dangerous area to move into and just keep blindly believing after you’re an adult. So I think for me, it’s questioning a lot. Where did I where did I start believing this? Where did this come from? Why am I adopting this as my belief? What happens if I don’t believe this? What does it mean to me? What am I making it mean? And start kind of dismantling it through inquiry.

Grace: Yeah. And so what is the energy of truth feel like to someone? Because I feel like the mind can be so powerful and, like, oh, it should be like this because, you know, maybe your mom said it over and over again. Go out in the world and you’re like, wait. But that doesn’t feel right to me. So what does truth feel like in essence?

Alex: Oh my gosh. I guess that’s so subjective. But for me, I know it’s when I can start to see my future more. It’s when things open up. Right? So there is where there were walls or blocks or restrictions before, when I move into a space of truth, I feel like the whole quantum field opens. That’s when I can start to be like, what do I wanna choose from here to create? Right? That’s really where we reclaim our sovereignty is moving into this place of questioning and then getting to choose where we want to move from there.

Grace: Yeah. So we all come from, you know, this universal energy of one. Why is it important to have an individuality as well and sovereignty too?

Alex: Oh my gosh. This question is like the one that I think about all the time because we don’t have a definitive answer on this. And at the end of the day, you know, I have spent so much of my life studying the ancient texts, like, delivering the teachings. Like, this is my life, and that is one thing that I just can’t answer. Right? I believe that we wanted to experience ourselves. Right? It’s that great consciousness. We broke into that duality that we could, you know, make a play between those two great energies that through the polarity, creation could be made. Right? And why? Why did we do this? Well, some of the ancient texts talk about it’s the divine dance, which this is called lila in the Vedas, and it means the gods are just playing.

✨ Quest for Unity and Experience

Alex: And I think that that is the most resonant answer and almost, like, of a letdown of an answer I’ve ever discovered. And that’s just something I think, like, you know, eventually we can come to terms with that truth if anybody adopts that truth as well. But it’s that we just wanted to do it. We wanted to experience all that we could experience and all that we could create. And I think that’s why we’re always seeking reunification is because in the great consciousness genius, we created all of these veils of illusion so that we could find ourselves again, find all of these partial expressions even though it’s all happening at once. We’re still that oneness, but we’re still broken up into all these expressions, learning through those veils, through the Maya, the illusion, that at the end of the day, we gotta come back to this unity, to the unification, because it’s like a magnet. We can’t escape it, though all the parts of ourselves are always gonna be calling to ourselves. So it’s okay however long it takes us or whatever happens along the journey, but at the end of the day, that’s what we’re moving towards, I believe.

Grace: Yeah. And, you know, throughout your life, you mentioned magnet, and I feel like some people outside of us, you know, people we meet also feel like magnets, and maybe their soul family or maybe not. Maybe their karmic partners, maybe not. What do you think about people that we’re tied to if we feel like we’re magnetically drawn to that person for whatever reason?

✨ Soul Contracts and Spiritual Clusters

Alex: Yeah. I think it can mean a lot of different things. Like I said earlier, sometimes we just contracted some souls. Like, hey. Can you play the villain in this era for me? So I think sometimes it’s, like, soul contract level like that. But I do believe, and I did see it in my I caught my great awakening, was that there’s groups of souls that we travel with in, like, the form of our higher self. So I do believe that we have kind of clusters of family units that we can move through karmas together in whatever place we’ve decided to incarnate in for a while. So we’re all playing out the Earth game.

Alex: Right? But in, you know, like, in the Galactic Star Tara, there’s so many different places to play it out. So I think we do choose these other souls. That’s like our troop, our acting troop, and we go through with them to go down on the stage and we play these different roles. And I think that that’s that magnetism. It’s like, oh, we know each other. We’ve lived a lot of lives together because we came here together. What role are you playing? Because we all signed up to play for each other.

Grace: Yeah. And you mentioned pods like traveling to Earth, let’s say, but here we have in the Galactic Star Tarot, you know, the Pleinians, the Sirians, Arcturians, the Lyrans. Do we also travel in pods to those different star systems too?

Alex: I believe so. Yeah. I believe so. And I’ve noticed with a lot of my clients, because Pleiades tends to be the easiest star system for people to work with. They’re very close to us. Genetically, it said they’re very close to us too. That’s why they look so similar. But I’ve had a lot of clients be like, oh, my Pleiadian family is still traveling with me.

Alex: And I think that’s true that, yeah, like, we could have expressions of us that’s playing out a humanoid life on Earth, but we could simultaneously be it over in Sirius or somewhere else. And, yeah, maybe those soul groups that are incarnating together, maybe they change when we go to other star systems. I really don’t know, but I do feel that we do travel with others.

Grace: Yeah. I have, like, certain memories and guides and whatnot in different score systems, which I do believe, like, your guides that you might come across are, like, versions of yourself in a different timeline. I think it’s, like, really interesting that I might have a Lyran guide or, you know, someone from Pleiades and, you know, it’s just interesting that, like, in your counsel of whoever is guiding you, they’re also just, like, versions of you.

Alex: Yeah. Wild. I totally agree with you, and I think that’s, like, that just adds, like, another major layer of complexity to this whole game. It’s like, wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. So I’m not just Grace right now.

Alex: I’m not just Alex right now. Like, I’m also Blobitygoop and Hoobar and, like, all these other beings elsewhere. But that’s, like, the wild interplay of, you know, the space time continuum. And I think that’s why we’re able to tune in to so many different gifts and memories, including things that haven’t happened yet in the linear timeline because I do believe it’s linear here. I do. We know this because of entropy. So I think that at least as far as this dimension, the law of physics apply, and there is entropy. We’re heading in a direction.

Alex: But when it’s on soul level, I think that it can all, like, be layered. Moving in the same direction at least in this universe, but it can all be happening at the same time.

Grace: Yeah. So with judgment and with one sole purpose, do you believe that everyone has a calling or multiple callings?

Alex: I do. I strongly believe that, at least in my tradition and my belief, if you’re incarnated, you have karmas. The only instance that that wouldn’t be the case is if we’ve taken on a role that’s known as bodhisattva and essentially we come back to help others on their path. These would be gurus like Sadhguru, I’m a big fan of him, or other, like, really big figures that help guide us in pure teachings. So I think that that would be an exception, possibly. My belief still believes there’s a small karma for all of them too. So as I make a joke with my students all the time, like, you’re alive right now, so I know you have karma. As long as we’re living, we have karma as we’re working through.

Alex: So I do believe that in order to fulfill our karmas, we do it through dharma. Dharma is our purpose, but it also means cosmic balance. So by maintaining cosmic balance through the mission or the purpose that we want to live, that’s how we clear our karmas and reach the moksha that we are liberated. So I think that it’s imbued in every incarnated individual blueprint for the mission or role we’re meant to play to help us do that to the best ability that we can.

Grace: When we’re shifting into a different timeline within our human lives, you know, I think a lot of that comes with change. And for anybody that might feel imbalanced while going through growth and change and facing shadows, like, you know, doing work of ultimately eliminating karma if possible. How does one navigate through, like, heavier moments of, you know, transformation?

Alex: Awareness, again, compassion. Like, I’m always going back to that because in I find that it seeds so many other actions. Right? Otherwise, we’re acting kind of out of fear or rushing or urgency in some way, but if we can ground into awareness with compassion, that informs the next actions we’ll take. So that would be my number one suggestion in community. Right? Connecting with other people who are aware that we’re on that shared path of moving towards liberation. So whether it’s listening to, like, your podcast, Grace, that’s a sense of community or moving into some course or community that you can connect with others on the same wavelength, That provides a tremendous amount of support for us as we move forward. So compassion, awareness, community, support. I always have a mentor.

Alex: I always have a guide or a coach at every point in my life. So having somebody at a place that they’re at where I want to be helps to also inform some actions I might wanna take to bring myself there.

Grace: Yeah. And there’s so much, you know, within this conversation about the individual journey. But what do you think are some collective collective trends when it comes to, like, awakening or finding one’s purpose or following their calling?

✨ Challenging Materialistic Western Values

Alex: Yeah. I think that there are structures in place in some areas, like in the West, for example, that there’s an idea of kind of wanting to gain the material pursuits, which are important, but not if that’s the means for the ends. Like, not if that is justifying everything we’re doing just to have prosperity and money. I think that there’s, you know, these external structures that have been built just like dogmatic religions that tell us, hey. These are the beliefs. Hey. These are your goals just because we’re telling you. Right? And so I think that to discover our purpose is really those things that we probably needed at some point and not the things that we’re being told are going to make us feel accomplished or make us feel like we did the thing because it’s too subjective.

Alex: So collectively, I think it depends on the area we’re in and the time that we’re in. If we’re talking of times, there’s a very ancient timing system known as the yugas. And this is very important for anybody on the planet right now because these yugas are basically these four eras of the planet. It moves from the golden era. Everything’s beautiful and amazing. We’re telepathic, and there’s no such thing as money. Everybody’s abundant. And then we start to fall into the silver.

Alex: Like, things are still pretty magical, but some things are starting to get a little dualistic. We move into the bronze age where we’re starting to lose magic. Then we go into what’s called the iron age, Kali Yuga, which is the darkest period where we’ve totally forgotten the veil is thick, and then we come back up and through. So right now, a lot of the calculations are pointing towards we’re in that ascending bronze again. And so, collectively, this is a major movement. It’s in the text that we’re moving back towards technology and the magic of individuals. So we’re seeing this play out a lot with, like, AI and, you know, all the tech advancements that are exponentially growing. This has been prophesied for thousands of years already in the in the text, and this is part of that evolution of humans.

Alex: So there’s the collective evolution, but it will always coincide with when we choose to live too. So there’s a call here for us to be able to integrate the technology with higher consciousness. Now it is prophesied it will we were not gonna get it right at first, and I think a lot of us are starting to see that with, like, the AI. Like, oh, no. Let’s take it over. But don’t be worried. We tell our students all this all the time. Like, don’t be worried because we’re moving exactly where we’re meant to, which is reconciling that.

Alex: So for us collectively right now, it’s using these advancements in technology to also coincide with the advancement of our consciousness so that we can create collective abundance and move us into the collective golden era. And all of us have our little missions in play for that too.

Grace: Wow. So much of healing and our journey into, you know, whether it’s, like, facing our karmas and, like, so much of judgment as well. I think it reminds me a lot of the hermit tarot card, where we do go into solitude and have to heal individually and on our own journey before we can connect to community more holistically. And so what is your thoughts on, you know, going through that healing process, whether that’s, like, in isolation or on an internal level before you are able to connect collectively?

✨ The Only Way Out Is In

Alex: I think that’s necessary and unavoidable. Right? Because we don’t want to steamroll the process, the integration. I know for myself, after my big awakening, I actually ended up moving to a dirt road at the bottom of a mountain in the middle of nowhere in a little village. And I lived there for four years just reading ancient texts and studying and, like, really submerging myself in this, but that was part of my healing. Right? And so I do think that that incubation period when, you know, we’re reborn. Okay? We need to reincubate ourselves into this new expression that we’re carrying with that newfound wisdom. I think that it does take time in ourselves because I think while community is important, that time with ourselves, at least for me, is where I really remembered inside of me where that could be taken in a less conscious place as being alone or lonely is actually where I found the truth that we’re everything. How could I possibly be alone when inside of me is literally every living being? Right? I tell my students a lot, the only way out is in.

Alex: It’s by going so deep into ourselves that we can expand back out into that remembrance that we’re part of everything and everyone. So I do think that taking that period to be on our own is what brings us back into community because we feel that connection again.

Grace: Yeah. That’s beautiful. Alrighty. Let’s move into our fast five questions, and then we’re gonna do a collective reading from Alex with her galactic star tarot deck. So what is your sun, moon, and rising signs?

Alex: Okay. I use Vedic astrology, so I’ll answer in the Vedic. My sun is Leo, my rising is Capricorn, and my moon is Scorpio.

Grace: And just curious, like, how does that differ from Western, and why do you use Vedic instead?

✨ Vedic vs. Western Astrology Insight

Alex: So I I actually was brought up with Western astrology. And then with all of my Vedic studies, I found Vedic astrology, and it just resonates a lot deeper for me. I don’t think that there’s one that’s totally right or totally wrong. However, I do find Vedic astrology is more astronomically accurate because it accounted for that little wobble of the Earth called the precession of the equinox. So because it accounted for it, we continued to still be aligned with the stars in the sky, which a western is more solar based, so maybe it didn’t need it. It’s not the same as the star system of Vedic astrology, but it’s no longer aligned to the the stars in the sky.

Grace: Got it. And I know Pam, who has been on this podcast a couple times and also your business partner, also uses FedEx. What advice would you give to your younger self?

Alex: The advice I’d give to my younger self is it’s all about connection. It’s all about the people in our lives, the people we get to experience, and whether it’s challenging or totally exhilarating, either way is an opportunity to come back into love and unity. So connection is everything.

Grace: How would you define everyday magic?

Alex: Oh, wow. Everyday magic, I think, is just living our lives, and maybe sometimes you don’t realize we’re creating as we’re living. But I take that as magic. Every word we speak is magic. Everything we do, even down to movements, that’s why Mudras. Right? They’re so powerful. Everything we do is all a part of this expression in the matrix. So everything’s magic.

Alex: Everything is a movement in that matrix, and so it’s meaningful.

Grace: Yeah. And I I think I heard you say, like, yoga is a form of light language. Is that right?

Alex: That’s right. It’s the same. It’s a body movement, so we’re directing energy through ourselves just like a a mudra or a lock, which is known as a bandha. It’s the same thing that we’re directing energy. So yoga, the asanas, the traditional asanas were reverse engineered when the sages were having awakening experiences. Their bodies would go into certain positions that now we have we use as the traditional asana poses.

Grace: That’s so cool. What are your favorite rituals?

Alex: Chanting. Oh my gosh. Chanting, chanting, chanting. I do it all the time. Ancient Aramaic, Sanskrit, those are, like, my go tos. The Sanskrit, because obviously I’m really into the Vedas. But chanting changes the whole vibrational matrix, right, the whole fabric of how we’re experiencing reality. Chanting is a go to.

Alex: Breath breath prana lives in the breath. All of your life force is coming from the breath. It’s said in yoga, it’s a king of the mind. So whatever is ruling the mind is ruling our entire experience. And also energy modalities like ABC, the awakened bliss codes, which is what we teach people, I use that every day as well. So, essentially, that means calling in particular energetic signatures to support me in life.

Grace: Yeah. What if you’re able to share a mantra that you’re using right now or awakened bliss code if it’s like a simple one?

Alex: Yeah. Okay. Simple. Well, I’m learning Sanskrit right now, so none of my mantras are very simple right now. But a good one and, actually, I was with my students earlier today, and we were chanting the Ganesh mantra. And this is good for anybody regardless of your planetary makeup, your natal chart, because we prescribe mantras in Vedic astrology depending on your planetary setup, but Ganesh you can work with regardless of that. So that would sound like gam, gana pataye namaha. You do that a hundred eight times a day.

Alex: Oh. And he clears obstacles for us. So Ganesh is he’s the god with the Indian, with the elephant head, and he clears away obstacles. So if you’re working on any type of wealth or manifestation, you usually wanna start with Ganesh to clear the space. Like you said earlier, it all sorts of space clearing. So that energy is what helps us create the space to bring in the blessings we want.

Grace: Yeah. I I love connecting to him, which is really cool. What are you looking forward to in the near future?

Alex: I think just continuing to dive into the teachings. I love my work, so I love to be able to get up every day and teach with, you know, my students and move into these practices. Personally, for me right now, the most exciting thing I’m doing is learning the Sanskrit studying Sanskrit.

✨ Collective Reading: Rest and Integrate Lessons

Grace: Alrighty. Are you ready for the collective reading?

Alex: Yes. Alright. So I think I’ll pull first on what the collective might be able to open up to release, your listeners, and then the next card I’ll pull is an invitation of what to call in, and then I guess a final card of just any general message for them. Okay. Oh my gosh. I love this. You can’t make this up. So the energy to release that came forward is the four of swords.

Alex: So this is all the swords are starseeds from Sirius, and the four of swords is when we’re meant to rest. So it comes after the three of swords, which is like, you know, we went through that trial, whatever it was that we went through that kind of broke us open. And if we’re wise enough, we’ll remember that lesson, and we’ll take time to integrate it and rest. Just like you asked me earlier about the correlation of the judgment with the hermit and taking the time alone, and I totally agree with you. And I think that’s what this card is saying is as far as what releasing goes, it’s releasing pushing too hard, that you’re allowed to give yourself permission to rest, especially when you’re integrating something. And this might be an invitation to some people that if you’re wondering, well, what do I need to rest from? There might be a lesson that just came to you recently. And what I mean by that is if there’s anything recently that you were struggling through, there’s a karmic lesson there. So to notice that and give yourself time to rest and integrate that without pushing too hard and without getting stuck in rest phase.

Alex: That’s kind of that delicate balance. But the releasing energy for this I’m taking is not pushing too hard when you’re integrating, when you’re really reconciling that part of you that you’ve discovered. For the energy of what to call in, we have our page of cups, so a little Pleiadian hid there. And this is inviting back in play and joy. Right? So in emotional, vibrational charts, they’ve done studies on what are the highest vibrational energies we can be in. Gratitude is super high up there, and so is playfulness. So coming into the energy of play. Right? So if you’ve been in rest phase and then you can bring yourself back out, right, not getting stuck, a A lot of the time can be playfulness.

Alex: It’s just simply moving the body, moving into chanting, moving into, you know, anything that wakes you back up and feels good and feels light. And then just a general message for the collective is the three of cups. And this is what we’re talking about with the community. So it’s really everything we talked about. It’s like taking that time to rest and integrate, bringing back in the joy, the fun, the things that spark us. That will always also be a key to purpose. What you enjoy, what feels good, and what you’re good at. And celebrating.

Alex: Celebrating what you have moved through, celebrating that version of yourself, that karma you cleared, and celebrating especially with others. So telling people, hey, listen, I moved through this thing recently. Or, hey, like, it’s getting really nice out again. You wanna go see some gardens? And just celebrating life with other people because it is about connection this whole life.

Grace: Yeah. I love that. It’s so full circle with everything that we talked. Well, thank you so much, Alex, for spending time with us today, for sharing your wisdom, your galactic wisdom, and for, you know, sharing your tarot deck as well. I’m really excited to dive into this and to learn more about the star systems. And for anyone who’s curious and interested in learning more, where can they find you?

✨ Free Membership Offer with Deck Purchase

Alex: So you can get our deck with hayhouse.com or you can get it on Amazon. If you go to Awakened Mystery School, that’s me and Pamela Chen’s business page. You’ll find on there actually that you can get three months free in our Galactic Star Society when you order the deck. So this is a membership. We have about 70 or 80 people in there right now that we come together every month, and we connect and move through these energies. So every month, we host a live gathering, and we talk about all of the Vedic astrology, what’s going on in the skies, if things are retrograde or where they’re placed for the month, and then we do a journey through a star system. And a lot of the star systems we go through are also in the Galactic Star Tarot. So if you order our deck, we’d love to gift you three months for free inside of our community.

Grace: Awesome. And I did attend Alex’s and Pam’s light language workshop, and I found it to be really awesome and really powered me up light language wise. Yeah. It was super cool. Would highly recommend checking out her community and buy the tech. Thank you, Alex.

Alex: Thank you so much, Grace. Thank you.

✨ End of Episode – Make Sure to Leave a Podcast Review!

Grace: Thanks so much for tuning in to today’s episode with Alex Hanly. This was such a powerful and affirming conversation about what it means to rise, evolve, and fully step into your calling. Alex brought such beautiful clarity to the energy of judgment, rebirth, and that the process of awakening can be simple, increasing your awareness and coming back to your breath. Here’s your journaling prompt. Where in your life are you being called to awaken or evolve? What truth are you ready to own? I’d love to hear what came up for you. Feel free to leave a comment or review. And as a reminder, we will be doing a giveaway of Alex’s deck, Galactic Star Tarot on Instagram, YouTube, and all of the socials. So make sure to check it out.

Grace: Until next time, allow yourself to answer the call. You are more ready than you think. Sending you grace today and every day.

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